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Patti59

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Hello Everyone!

       First of all, I would like to take this Time to THANK all of you that have joined the Forum.  As many of you know, I have been Advocating for Gender Role Reversal and the Empowerment of Women with the Feminization of men for well over 30 years!   It has been such a Delightful experience to converse with all the people that I have corresponded with over the years.  I think at times about PennySue, and the Great Wisdom she brought to the subject of male feminization.  I often wonder how her hubbette, and her three darling sissy boys have made out since her passing in the car accident back in 2007.....I have had no contact with them  I wonder if the boys are now Pretty male wives to some Strong Feminist Women?   I wonder about John/Joan, whose letter to me from 1997 I had just posted to the Blog.  The Delightful Community of those Role Reversed relationships....those Strong Women and their dainty male wives!!!  Then I think about the people that contact me through the Blog, and at times the people I assist with feminizing their son or husband, I really realize just what a Wonderful thing this has been for me.
       I guess what has me thinking about all this is the Posting from whyguys today.  I really would hate to see him go, but I also understand where he is.  He Posted a Comment on that latest Posting on the Blog, and I responded to it, this is what I wrote:

 Thank You Whyguys!    I really try to get the Points across as vividly as possible.   At times it is frustrating when it seems that we are not getting the Traffic that I would like to see, but the whole Purpose of the Blog has been to Educate and then Motivate Women to Taking Charge, and reversing the Wrongs that have been done to them,  Men and boys are better when they are "In Touch" with their Femininity, but Women Must Want that to happen, or it will not happen.  Hopefully, the Progress we have made will continue to Build!
      As with you, I am getting older as well.  I have been Fighting this Fight for well over 30 years, and I am encouraged by the Progress that we are making, but I also wish it was going Faster!
     Thank you for the nice Comment!

       Here is the "Controversial" part of this Posting:

     Some of you and I have had this discussion, but I am putting it "Out there", because maybe I just don't understand.  And this is Not to anyone in particular, like I said, it could just be that I am so "Thick headed"!

      As I have been in discussions with some over the last few weeks, I am always intrigued when someone Feminizes a husband or son, in the Goal of Empowering Women, but after they would Totally "Prissify" them, then they refer to them as "She".  I guess because I am so Adamant that Women should be exalted, and held up as Strong and Powerful Leaders, it just "troubles" me to see when a person is then Feminized, and are now the '50's style of Femininity, which was "weak" and "helpless", "in need of a man for support and protection" that we use that Superior Term on the "prissy person"...male!  I guess in my perception, I want the Strong and Powerful ones to be Women, and the weak and prissy ones to be the males.  To me, and I could be "Way Out there" on this, the "Prissiness" in the New Age NEEDS to be associated with the males!  and the Strength and Dominance NEEDS to be associated with the FEMALES!

       I would so much appreciate if we could get others thoughts on this, especially from the Strong Women we have here at the Forum.  My Goal for this Forum and Blog, and the Blog that was before this, and the Yahoo Groups that were before that, and all the Forums I had established over the last 30 years has been to EMPOWER Women and Girls, and to Feminize men and boys, putting them in their "Proper Place", which is to Serve Women!   I Want to see Women be the Leaders, God knows just how badly men have messed things up!   In the meantime, I want to see males being Accepted as Pretty and Prissy, Well Behaved "helpers" to the Women!

     I really hope that many of you will Chime in and share your thoughts.  And in that "Light", let me know what we can do to make the Forum Better, so that people realize this is NOT a "Fetish" Site, but a place to Educate and Encourage people on what the New Age Lifestyle is. 

     Thanks for Listening!

Hope to hear from you!

Patti


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Great post Patti, yes we all wish we could wake up in a female control world tomorrow. Unfortunately, it properly wouldn’t last as most women today don't fully understand the benefits of feminizing males. Playing the long game is the key to success and gradually pushing the envelope until we are past the tipping point. Women today recognize the evils of toxic masculinity but too many still want the strong male to protect and provide for them. Things are changing slowly girls today are growing up “free” of traditional femininity and have no limits set of them. A growing number of mothers are now recognizing that boys need to be encouraged to have the same freedom to express femininity. Unfortunately, most of these mothers don’t always have a plan or see “prissying their sons” as the goal.

One mother I helped who only recently saw the light was quite resistant to “petticoating”, she wanted her son to be a pseudo modern girl and was upset when he still acted like an alpha brat. She was confused when dressing him in modern girl clothes and putting him into ballet classes wasn’t enough. The bottom line, she really didn’t want to make the effort or commitment required. At one point she was totally ready to give up, I convinced her to try “petticoating for a month”. Well now 4 months later she has seen the benefits of true petticoating and her brat is well on the way to being completed pissified.

The “Controversial” part of your post is a good question and something I personally struggled with fully accepting. Every situation is different so there is no right answer. I do know the mothers I work with that use “her/she” pronouns for their sons, use it for convenience to avoid unnecessary attention, or preferred having daughters. A number of schools/clubs have become more open to transgender/gender fluid kids and in those cases, the gender-neutral pronoun of them is more often used than “he/him”. Again a lot of this is because society still sees femininity associated with females. I don’t see this lasting for much longer. The younger generation is not hung up on traditional gender roles and more accepting of male femininity. There are a lot of discussions going around about eliminating gender altogether and adopting language that supports that, not sure if I fully back this idea 100%.
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Thanks RF...That helps in my Outlook!

I know you and I are on the Same Page as far as knowing that Women Need to Lead and men need to be Feminized.  My Biggest concern is in Changing the perception that "Prissiness" is associated with being Female.  And we all know the basic 1950'2 perception of boys and Girls, men and Women.....that has to be Reversed!!!

I also understand that to get to the "End Game" sometimes you need to do things that you would rather not do, but if we get to the end and have a Gender Reversed Society, then I guess the means justify the Ends!

  I know all of us here want to see Women Taking the Lead and keeping their males feminine and submissive.  I also know that there are a lot of other Sites that just want to talk about Crossdressing or Feminine men.  I want to believe what makes us Different is that although we do Focus on Feminizing males, we also point out and Educate people on Female Empowerment, and that is what really Drives me in this pursuit, and therefore, anything that Takes away from Female Empowerment really Concerns me!

    I hope to hear other thoughts on this subject!

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A lot of good points here. I think one thing to look at closely is the reason why male femininity is important and why we are advocating to remove toxic male behaviors. Does referring to a male at birth as her/she defeat the purpose? I don't think so. I also think by saying that they should always be referred to as male is wrong in some cases because it's not accepting transgender women. On the other side of it, once we label males sissies then that opens the door to a lot of fetishistic ideals that are prevalent all over the web and I have seen some signs of it via comments here on this forum. It's a very fine line and I have seen it somewhat blurred or even crossed over in some cases via a few comments I have read which is why I am not posting as much. Why? Because that particular fetish is very male sexuality driven.

I think the direction society is going right now is good. To RF's point, we are seeing more male femininity and girls/women not being placed in traditional gender roles. We are also seeing more acceptance for transgender and non-binary and effeminate men. Do the pronouns really matter? Not really, just use the pronouns people prefer you use. What matters is society becoming more accepting of others and that is a result of it becoming more feminine.
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To RF's point, we are seeing more male femininity and girls/women not being placed in traditional gender roles. We are also seeing more acceptance for transgender and non-binary and effeminate men. Do the pronouns really matter? Not really, just use the pronouns people prefer you use. What matters is society becoming more accepting of others and that is a result of it becoming more feminine.

This is a great point. My personal focus is still on female empowerment and the benefits of feminization. The acceptance of the LGBTQ community is an off-shot of true feminism. Women helped open the door for all of society to be accepted. The goals of both communities are the destruction of the patriarchal system and the enforced rules males have imposed on all of us.
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     As usual RF, you have such a Brilliant outlook!   Of course you and I have been "Fighting this Fight" for a Long Time.  The Empowerment of Women is so Crucial.  It is not that long ago that Women and Girls were forbidden to do many of the activities that are now commonplace for them now!  You can look in the Women Empowerment section of the Blog and see some of the stories of these Female Pioneers, this is a Section I do need to give more attention to,  For Women like Caty Stanton to accomplish what she accomplished at a time when Women were the "property" of their husbands or fathers is Amazing.  How many men would have had her fortitude?
     When you look at the current Movements, they ALL OWE their existence to The Strong ForeMothers that had the Courage and Determination to Push for Respect and Equal Rights.  They did not just sit there and say "It's Not Fair", they actually Did something, and at Great Personal Risk, that is LEADERSHIP!!!!   I know some of the Great Work that RF does does Not conform with Society's expectations, and I Admire her for what she has accomplished, many times in the "Face" of Strong Opposition, but she is a LEADER!
     I know that we have recently had some other Strong Feminist Women join us here at the Forum.  I ask that they state their Goals and Beliefs for the future FLS.  I am so Thankful to have these Strong and Independent Women here as members of the Forum!

      The Future is FEMALE, IF Women want it to be.   Believe me, once the Women tell the men how it will be, the males WILL Comply!

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There is no doubt that the women's liberation movement also know as the "ban the bra era" opened the door for the LBGTQ community to become what is is today. We obviously still have a long way to go but we owe women and especially women like you Chris a great debt of gratitude for helping us reach our true potential and encouraging other women to do the same.
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There is no doubt that the women's liberation movement also know as the "ban the bra era" opened the door for the LBGTQ community to become what is is today. We obviously still have a long way to go but we owe women and especially women like you Chris a great debt of gratitude for helping us reach our true potential and encouraging other women to do the same.

Thank you, I don't deserve any of the credit. The real credit goes to those brave women and LBGTQ pioneers who risked everything. Today, there are still women who are fighting this battle on the frontlines. Most of this happens behind the scenes and will their name will never be known. I have close personal mother friends who have risked everything fighting nasty ex alpha bastards in courts.  A few of them are now actively fighting the "male machine" so they can freely raise their children as they see fit. These are the women who are changing the world. I am just happy to do my part in guiding them and when necessary giving them a shoulder to cry on.
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For Women like Caty Stanton to accomplish what she accomplished at a time when Women were the "property" of their husbands or fathers is Amazing. 

I can't stress this enough. There are still plenty of males and far too many women who are actively working against our cause. They would be happy to have women once again be "property" of their husbands or fathers. Too many take for granted the freedom women have earned and how easily we could lose it to the bunch of alpha males.
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Yet Mz RadFem the percentage of resistance IS DECREASING DAILY.   Females who even enter into almost amused dalliance with the idea of Their superiority compared to malette inferiority help Woman's cause.  It appears the effectual reversal may still be up to two generations away, but it SHALL OCCUR - AND NEVER SHALL BE REVERSED TO PREVIOUS ERRANT and ERRONEOUS STATE. 

Please be proud Female Master Chris the Gynarchy of tomorrow with delicate sycophantic sissiffied and obedient malettes wistfully looking up to members of Your Superior Sex shall be one You've had more than some small part in establishing PERMANENTLY....

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Here's an idea that struck me as to how to solve the controversial part of Patti's question, which perhaps may also be considered controversial.

How about role reversing the gender pronouns?

So men are she/her
And women are he/him.

Perhaps this way it would be easier for people to accept a gender role reversed society en large more easily.

If men are she/her then it would be logical, to the mass public consciousness, that men should therefore be feminine - and the women she therefore naturally be leaders, strong, bold and fierce.

Most Sissies like myself prefer to be called be a feminine name like Brenda, than my actual name Brendan.

Also, many Women these days go by names previously that were male - for example, Sam, Bobbi, Daryl, Tracey, Morgan, Charlie, Alex and of course the Radical Feminist herself is Chris.

So if the gender names are already changing, then perhaps to achieve a world where men accept femininity and sissiness and submissiveness to women, this could be more easily facilitated by being referred to as she/her.

If women take men's trousers and men's power and men's names away and take control of them, maybe it is also correct that women take away men's gender pronouns as well, and adopt what is seen as the more powerful and stronger he/him for themselves.



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Oh Patti...

 So agree with the confusion on the  "PRONOUN PROBLEM".  Have no solution (why should i, being merely malette?), but feel perhaps one small argument for Females KEEPING nomenclature of  "SHE" and  "HER" would be to re-emphasize the FEMALE sex is now properly the main determinant of our race of "WOMANKIND" as final realization of the correction of all past HERSTORY.

Also note that word  'he' is but a  smaller  part of the LARGER designation   "SHE"  (although it is becoming clear  'he' in comparison  is daily being proven  not even 2/3 the being  "SHE" REALLY is .  *giggle*  *sob*)

As for "HER" versus "him" -- note if one speaks the words  "HER" sounds firm throughout while  'him' ends with a softer even DAINTIER sound than the its counterpart.


However Patti.... worry not - as future Women shall smilingly define the sexes linguistically to Their advantage, pleasure, comfort and amusement as Their malette counterparts go about their less important and lower skilled activity daintily and obediently as is their proper due.
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I do fefer to my sissy as she, but never capitalized and same with her name. My sissy knows it is not  a term for someone strong as she is a male and it grinds on her to be referred to as a female in any way, and the sissy is ddressed in feminine attire so should be addressed as such. Just my opinion and it works in my situation.
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Strict Wife...

Yes, until Female primacy is seen as the first and only natural and proper structure for society it seems well that any definitional language structure Women use as personal preference shall suffice in individual cases.  In Your case it must be quite satisfying to see your subordinate mate shaken in being so "de-masculinized".  Do tell us more of the progression and development of the little dear at Your hands if so is Your inclination.
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Hello Everyone!
       
      As I have been in discussions with some over the last few weeks, I am always intrigued when someone Feminizes a husband or son, in the Goal of Empowering Women, but after they would Totally "Prissify" them, then they refer to them as "She".  I guess because I am so Adamant that Women should be exalted, and held up as Strong and Powerful Leaders, it just "troubles" me to see when a person is then Feminized, and are now the '50's style of Femininity, which was "weak" and "helpless", "in need of a man for support and protection" that we use that Superior Term on the "prissy person"...male!  I guess in my perception, I want the Strong and Powerful ones to be Women, and the weak and prissy ones to be the males.  To me, and I could be "Way Out there" on this, the "Prissiness" in the New Age NEEDS to be associated with the males!  and the Strength and Dominance NEEDS to be associated with the FEMALES!

Patti

For Women like Caty Stanton to accomplish what she accomplished at a time when Women were the "property" of their husbands or fathers is Amazing. 

I can't stress this enough. There are still plenty of males and far too many women who are actively working against our cause. They would be happy to have women once again be "property" of their husbands or fathers. Too many take for granted the freedom women have earned and how easily we could lose it to the bunch of alpha males.

I see where Patti is coming from but I don't think that pronouns are actually that important. My path is a little different in that I was started along this path by a partner who recognised the inner conflict that I've fought since i was 8yo if not earlier. Now I present as a female 24/7 and plan to 'go all the way' something unthinkable not so long ago. When I go out with a group of girl friends I'm expected to be that bit more extreme in my clothing. If they wear jeans I either wear a skirt or dress, when in dresses or skirts mine are always a little shorter than theirs, often in 'fetish' materials leather, black PVC, and often chains and other details.
The logic would probably be familiar to Radical Feminist in that I'm seen as a detoxing 'male' and are welcomed as an ally and a sign to other males that change is possible and rewarding. My ex-partner is fully inline with this outlook and she is still a very good friend. I have been involved in several conversations and it's clear that my current dress code will be expected to continue after surgery, because I have been guided well I have absolutely no problem with this.
Possibly the dynamic of aggressive alpha males at the top of the system in their eyes will be eroded as some join in my journey, stop lying and fighting the obvious, and are happier as a result. I've come to like what's happening and I think most other males would too. The more aggressive and hateful may well be acting to cover their own issues - jealous of a freer lifestyle they hate those who endure or embrace it. 
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