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Please help settle this question
« on: May 09, 2024, 10:18:14 am »
Miss Brenda and I are trying to decide how I should deal with my submissiveness toward women while at work.  There I am a manager of a corporate office who deals with about twenty female subordinates, and around seventeen female peers who do not report directly to me, but I run the facility with rules they must follow. There are a number of males also. It is my responsibility to give performance reviews, discipline, fire and hire my own female subordinates.  Most of the ladies are not a problem, but there are a few who would take advantage of any weakness that I would show. Those several I would secretly love to kneel at their feet and accept their superiority, but I know things would end badly.  Miss B thinks that I should submissiveness to those majority that I trust as well as female peers, while I feel that I should not be submissive to any, especially subordinates. Your thoughts please.

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Re: Please help settle this question
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2024, 10:28:04 am »
Really tough call!  Work environment should be kept separate!  Unless you don’t need the work!
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2024, 10:42:00 am »
This is just my own personal opinion here:
From what you explain it seems to be impossible to be their manager and be submissive to them at the same time, these roles are jarring. You canīt be demanding/commanding/ordering and submissive at the same time. Sooner or later you wonīt be taken seriously in one of the roles, most probably the manager role. Better think twice here ... my two cents
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2024, 10:55:08 am »
My thoughts also.   I have yet to show any submissiveness, but sometimes I think that those couple can somehow sense it and would be quick to exploit it.  This, of course, makes it tough, vowing to be submissive and serve all women.  Is it even possible?  Perhaps, my service to my female subordinates is helping them to excel at their jobs by being the toxic male to them?

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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2024, 11:51:54 am »
Marcy, my views may be a bit extreme.  First, if you feel there is a Female subordinate or peer that is qualified for your job tell your boss that you want to step down and ask for the Woman to take your job.  Another approach is if your boss is a Woman then you can tell your subordinates that your boss is demanding x,y,z and not you.  If you embrace the new age lifestyle and Female supremacy then your choices are clear and that Women should be promoted, advanced, and served.  You can also appoint a Female team-leader who you can give a lot of autonomy to and she can run the group.  You can also have Miss Brenda show up and show your team that She is the boss and show you're in a FLR, which may help younger Women want to take on more leadership roles.  good luck.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2024, 12:12:48 pm »
This, of course, makes it tough, vowing to be submissive and serve all women.  Is it even possible?

If you ask me: yes! Maybe not in an obvious way "submissive", but in an indirect way. In my job I have also a leading position, not a manger position, nevertheless leading. in this position it is quite natural that I have to work with female subordinates. I cannot and will not give up my job only to be "submissive to all women". So my submission to them is versatile by guiding and helping them the best way I can do, by always (!!) having two ears open for them, by listening to them carefully and attentively, by giving them my most professional advices and tips, etc. By the way, this is also true in the relationship to my female superiors. It is a professional environment, not a D/s.
My professional attitude is: always be honest and provide the best professional service and expertise ... with my female colleagues - superiors and subordinates - I am always happy to go the extra mile or two, to not look at additional afforts and to be always polite no matter how sh... the day was. And believe it or not, it is getting notices. So I donīt need to kiss their feet to be submissive.
This might all sound not very FLR like ... but society is not there yet. Yes, you might step back and maybe be one of the most sunordinate team members only to be "submissive". Also in a Female Led society you donīt simply throw away male intelligence (yes, there are some :P), no, it will be used for the welfare of the society which might include guiding and leading women ... why not if this done with submissive respect and attitude.
(again: my own personal opinion!)
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2024, 04:41:44 pm »
 For what it is worth, as far as your employer is concerned, you cannot allow your personal lifestyle to dictate your behavior at work. I was a manager over women too, before I retired. There were not many instances when I had to initiate disciplinary action against one of the women, but when that became necessary, I was no longer Hubert the man. I was Hubert the representative of the company. It was never personal. It was handled discreetly and professionally. Of course, once the New Age becomes more widespread, there will be fewer and fewer males in a position of authority. The key is that you supervise work, you don't babysit people. You just do what you need to do, and treat everyone with respect, and at the end of the day, you can feel good about the job you have done.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2024, 07:43:31 pm »
I would highly recommend Ms. Viola Violtairine's two books ("150 Years of Gynarchy" and "The Pillars of Gynarchy"). She offers a moral clarity and lifestyle framework that is far better articulated than anything I can offer. Her podcasts (available on youtube) are also well worth listening to. They will help you find your path.

Another good resource is Mistress Damiana Chi, Ph.D., who has quite a nice presence on youtube.

The struggle you are having concerns whether your submissiveness is simply with a partner, under controlled circumstances, or if submissiveness to womyn defines who you are as a person. Miss Brenda has made her preferences clear, so it would appear that your status as a professional does not concern her so much as your behavior does. Perhaps she has a reason for thinking so.

Surviving is hanging on. Living is letting go. The people who you hide your true self from don't matter.

Only you can weigh the risks and rewards. Good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2024, 02:02:53 am »
For what it is worth, as far as your employer is concerned, you cannot allow your personal lifestyle to dictate your behavior at work. I was a manager over women too, before I retired. There were not many instances when I had to initiate disciplinary action against one of the women, but when that became necessary, I was no longer Hubert the man. I was Hubert the representative of the company. It was never personal. It was handled discreetly and professionally. Of course, once the New Age becomes more widespread, there will be fewer and fewer males in a position of authority. The key is that you supervise work, you don't babysit people. You just do what you need to do, and treat everyone with respect, and at the end of the day, you can feel good about the job you have done.
                                            -H.H

In the real and existing world of today that is as close to a perfect answer that you are going to get , we may not like it but at the moment and for the sake of your own carrer and finances that is how things are and you would do well to listen
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2024, 06:58:58 am »
I have recently retired but was responsible for several different groups of employees including a group of fairly young women - mainly between 20 and 30. My approach as a manager was to be as kind and considerate as I could possibly be. Empathise with problems exclusively experienced by women and ensure that there was no harassment of any kind exhibited by males particularly those employed in more manual work. I also argued for higher pay with business owners on behalf of the sales team who were performing in a far more positive manner than some of their male counter-parts. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2024, 10:43:18 am »
Everyone,

Thank you all for the thoughtful answers!  I do agree that being professional with a dose of thoughtfulness is the key. It would never work career wise to kiss employee feet and other shows of submission in the work place.  Although I still have a few younger women who seem to sense my weakness and try to subvert my authority. However, as has been pointed out here, I can still serve in subtle ways by advocating for the ladies and trying to help advance their careers.

In that light, I have conducted salary surveys which will produce monetary increases shortly.  Sexual harassment in my facility is very rare because the one time that it happened, I immediately dumped the contractor responsible. The males in the office saw that and their attitudes became much more respectful to the ladies.  Now, the ladies know that they can trust me to take their side and work for them.  It was obvious that I found it repugnant for a male to ever try to take advantage of a woman. The discipline and few female firings were actually spurred by complaints from the good female employees to protect the group. So, I guess that I actually am serving my female subordinates without being openly submissive while still doing my job.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2024, 08:34:40 am »
Marcy, my views may be a bit extreme.  First, if you feel there is a Female subordinate or peer that is qualified for your job tell your boss that you want to step down and ask for the Woman to take your job.  Another approach is if your boss is a Woman then you can tell your subordinates that your boss is demanding x,y,z and not you.  If you embrace the new age lifestyle and Female supremacy then your choices are clear and that Women should be promoted, advanced, and served.  You can also appoint a Female team-leader who you can give a lot of autonomy to and she can run the group.  You can also have Miss Brenda show up and show your team that She is the boss and show you're in a FLR, which may help younger Women want to take on more leadership roles.  good luck.

Adding my 3 cents, I have had several Supervisors who stepped down from Management, and went back to their old jobs, they either got tired of the BS of keeping upper management happy or their workers happy, or just trying to keep up with the office politics, these days being in Management is incredibly stressful.
I was in a lower management position and found the stress was not worth it, and went back to my old job and am happier. 
As for recommending a woman to become the next supervisor recommend the best person for the job, or you will regret it.

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2024, 09:05:00 am »
My own advice would be to keep your work life and FLR lifestyle separate.

In theory, Jemima could go to the office in his ladies wear and insist on his co-workers calling him by his female name but I suspect that it would not help his job prospects. In private, I am strict about feminization but outside of our home he can wear what he wants. Sometimes he will wear female underwear underneath his male clothes and I gently encourage this but I don't force him. I do however, forbid this for work. If he does go to the office he must only go as a vanilla man. No female underwear, fufu clip, or any hint of what happens to him at home. Now that he spends more time working from home, I would expect him to wear female office wear at home but only as he is invisible to his co-workers.

I keep my work and FLR lifestyle separate. I lead a team of about twenty people, most of whom are men in quite a male dominated industry. The way I would manage my household and my department at work are completely different. I didn't take this job as part of my FLR lifestyle or the idea that women should be leaders, it was just because I wanted to follow a career path and this is the level I have got to.

- Claire. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2024, 12:02:02 pm »
My own advice would be to keep your work life and FLR lifestyle separate.

In theory, Jemima could go to the office in his ladies wear and insist on his co-workers calling him by his female name but I suspect that it would not help his job prospects. In private, I am strict about feminization but outside of our home he can wear what he wants. Sometimes he will wear female underwear underneath his male clothes and I gently encourage this but I don't force him. I do however, forbid this for work. If he does go to the office he must only go as a vanilla man. No female underwear, fufu clip, or any hint of what happens to him at home. Now that he spends more time working from home, I would expect him to wear female office wear at home but only as he is invisible to his co-workers.

I keep my work and FLR lifestyle separate. I lead a team of about twenty people, most of whom are men in quite a male dominated industry. The way I would manage my household and my department at work are completely different. I didn't take this job as part of my FLR lifestyle or the idea that women should be leaders, it was just because I wanted to follow a career path and this is the level I have got to.

- Claire.

We have so far been careful to keep the sissy dress to a minimum while at work and within our general area.  I have and do wear panties to work, but they are hidden by the male clothes and can't be seen.  That being said, I have to be very mindful when using the restroom or bending over with my suit coat off.   However, I dress totally en femme while at home, on vacations or other trips away from our local area.  I can't ever see having the courage to fully dress sissy or show that role at work.  The world is moving that way, but I don't believe that it will be fully accepted yet.  There would be problems at work with the males and a loss of respect by everyone.  Sadly.     
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2024, 01:12:47 pm »
I agree with Lady Claire.
Keeping the private and professional aspects of ourselves separate is the best policy so that none is embarrassed or compromised, yes, panties are a definite possibility but let's be realistic  about this. Besides, the anticipation of going home after work to your Divine Superior who will decide what Her sissy will wear and do is thrilling.


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