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Haraldje

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Submissive men - The Vast untapped resource
« on: January 02, 2024, 09:06:49 am »
I just read a post from Ms. Scarlett about the vast potential submissive men constitute for the New Age Lifestyle and for achieving gynarchy. I think this is an immensely important topic and wanted to reply, but it was in the Women Only Forum. I hope no one mind if I open up a new topic here, together with the link to Ms Scarlett's original post.

https://newagelifestyle.createaforum.com/women-only!/vast-untapped-resource/

I totally agree with Ms. Scarlett that submissive males are a huge potential for the New Age. They already have a submissive streak and are ready to serve a woman, but often only in a way that represents their own, male fantasy of femdom. This male fantasy is mostly not what women want and many women have made bad experiences with so-called submissive males who only look for a "dominant" woman who fulfills their wishes.

So many women who are really dominant are put off by such males and do not bother to take them under their wings.

But: For an experienced and empowered woman who masters the art of sissification it is really easy to transform a submissive male into an emasculated and feminized sissy who does everything exactly according to her will.

I bet that there are not only hundreds of thousands but literally millions of submissive men out there who long for a dominant female partner.

What would be necessary imho would be to teach more women how to transform a "would-be"-submissive into a truly submissive male and what a woman can do with him once he is properly broken, emasculated and feminized.

I am sure that there are also millions of women out there who would jump at the chance to have a truly submissive sissy in their house.
 



 

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Re: Submissive men - The Vast untapped resource
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2024, 09:26:26 am »
Excellent response and correct assessment of the current state!  The potential is there and needs capitalized on!
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2024, 09:39:48 am »
I canít agree more. Thatís excellent. I always advise submissive men who look for dominant women to keep in mind that both the male and female should be enjoy this kind of relationship and I am sure that once more women know what benefits they get from this type of relationships we will see more and more of it
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2024, 10:28:42 am »
Certainly that vast resource exists for women to take advantage of,  but we have to help awaken women to their strength and ability to subjugate these males.  That will be the key to the fall of the patriarchy.   
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2024, 12:12:39 pm »
That will be the key to the fall of the patriarchy.

Exactly what I was thinking. If women can manage to turn let's say one million submissive males into sissies then it would be mainstream. Coverage would be so widespread that every woman would know about it. That in turn would spark interest in learning how to sissify males, which in turn would lead to sissification courses for women which will be attended by many, many women.

Now with a million men already sissified and all women knowing about the benefits and powers of sissification the remaining males will have no choice than accept sissification. 

That indeed could be the end of the patriarchy and the rise of gynarchy.

Although I am not sure about this but I bet that most women feel deeply fascinated by the thought of turning a man into a shivering mass of submissive goo. The power this thought gives women is surely intoxicating and irresistible.

But most women I guess doubt if this is indeed possible or only a fantasy and if this is morally acceptable.

But if we could persuade them that "Yes, it is indeed possible" and it is also morally justified - not only because we would create a better world for all, but because submssive men deep inside long for it - then we could certainly win many women over to our cause. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2024, 02:26:24 pm »
There is a vast difference between a male that has fantasies relating to femdom and one that is truly submissive. If it is a sexual turn on that is fulfilled from some kind of session, then upon completion, the male returns to a former state and is unlikely to be in any way compliant after fulfilment.
In my experience, the vast majority of women are not naturally dominant and are not looking for a partnership where they take the lead in an FLR. Women seek men who are providers and hunter gatherers. This is almost hard wired as society has evolved in this direction and with the roles we think of as being traditional.
What needs to happen is a step change in education that will gradually bring about a change in society. Whilst ever we continue to promote traditional roles, the status quo will continue and the FLR will continue to be just a small minority. The re-education of our societies has nothing to do with sissification or any kind of subjugation. It is about changing the traditional roles and undoing many of our long held beliefs and traditions. Housework, parenthood, home maintenance, DIY, traditional jobs all have to be altered quite dramatically and then there is the consideration of body mass and natural strength.
It is a long road and requires different mindsets although there are a number of countries around the world where there is almost a third gender where boys are brought up in what we consider to be a feminine manner and they have a different purpose in society. If that idea was more widespread, it might well be the way to go forward and grow the numbers of males who naturally develop in la different role and are usually submissive and may fulfil the requirements of a more female dominated society.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2024, 11:35:02 am »
In my experience, the vast majority of women are not naturally dominant and are not looking for a partnership where they take the lead in an FLR. Women seek men who are providers and hunter gatherers. This is almost hard wired as society has evolved in this direction and with the roles we think of as being traditional.

That's a very interesting question I have also pondered about. Do women really have no inherent streak for dominance and are looking for men as protectors and providers because they are genetically wired to it? Or is this only a result of thousands of years of patriarchaic oppression that left women no other choice?

There is some historical evidence that women can be as hungry for power and dominant as men, Catherine the Great is a case in point here. But if women showed their dominant streak they were punished or shunted. so they learned to play the docile wife.

I have made several experiences with women whom I asked to beat me with a whip. At first they were hesitant, reluctant, not sure if I meant it seriously. Then they started to give me some slight whacks. When they saw what an impact even a light whack with a whip has they felt the power surging in them. And then they began to whip harder and harder. You could really see and feel how they delighted in wielding the whip, in bossing me around. The feeling of power was so iressistible to them that some had difficulty holding themselves back.

I think that the feeling of POWER is at least as intoxicating for women as it is for many men. And once women are freed from the restraints of society and morale that forces them to be submissive I think their dominant streak will come to the fore with more vengeance than most men could imagine.

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2024, 07:28:55 pm »
Haroldje,
If I implied it is genetics, my apologies. All i meant by hard wired is what you described as patriarchal oppression. In my terms, it is the way we have been bred and developed and that is thousands of years to undo.
I have had several experiences with females and spankings or canings, and generally, with the occasional exceptions they are very reluctant to oblige which i put down to a more nurturing personality.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2024, 11:14:43 am »
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If it is a sexual turn on that is fulfilled from some kind of session, then upon completion, the male returns to a former state and is unlikely to be in any way compliant after fulfilment.

Petula Petal is correct that the male reaching completion will tend to stop cooperating.  The Femdom fantasy world is not a bad place to begin the journey however it cannot be emphasized enough how corrupting the ejaculation is to the simple male mind.

There is nothing wrong with a male who arouses from thoughts of powerful women so long as he is not permitted to squirt his slime.  By avoiding this climax, the male submission can be preserved.

This is a great argument for why all males should have a protective case locked on their birth defect that they are unable to remove.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2024, 12:11:18 pm »

The Femdom fantasy world is not a bad place to begin the journey however it cannot be emphasized enough how corrupting the ejaculation is to the simple male mind.


It is corrupting and I also agree with Petula Petal that once the "femdom show" is over the typical "submissive" male regresses to his usual behavior.

But exactly this same ejaculation can be used against him. The "submissive" male will get much pleasure from the typical femdom play, with which can start at the beginning. That will get him hooked to the "game". He thinks that he is the one who is in control, let him believe this for a while. He doesn't know it, but his current ejaculations might be the last ones in his life. Then, after a while, propose chastity. He still thinks that he is in control, that he is the boss, that if he orders his mistress or begs loud enough she will remove the cage. That's typical male hybris.

But once he is locked the dynamic changes. Then it is SHE who is in control, in total control. It's no longer HIS phantasy but HERS. Now he has entered the stage of real submissiveness and can be trained according to the wishes of his mistress, who is now  a real mistress and no longer a servant who fulfills his wishes.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2024, 05:59:44 am »
It's actually very selfish of a male to be submissive and yet expect his Woman to notice, nurture and take things to the next level.
Our Women can look forward to a much happier life with an adoring partner who keeps house, cleans and never expects anything in return. Someone who shines when he is under instruction and loves to feel safe, protected and cossetted by his Female partner.
She is more intelligent, better with money, stronger, more empathetic and should always have enjoyed complete control since day one.
Our movement can encourage males to feel able to show this to the Females in their lives, without fearing derision and these days being 'cancelled', but it also takes the Female mindset to be open to the signals and to know just how to say to the boi -'sit down here as you and I have to talk about things properly'
In short, it takes communication - most of which comes from the Female but which needs to be visible and nurtured from the very beginning
 
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2024, 07:41:22 am »
Well stated!

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2024, 03:28:15 pm »
As Nikki stated, it is communication that is the key or has the ability to unlock a great deal of potential.There is a tendency for femdom to be thought of as very one sided but I contend that once again that is only in the world of fantasy and it goes up in smoke whenever there is any kind of sexual release used as part of the process. The communication must be two way and the submissive male must demonstrate his willingness to fully participate in an FLR with no strings attached. However the relationship develops, the two partners must tacitly agree to the direction and the rules for it to work properly to it is likely to leave one side of the partnership dis-satisfied and in the long run things may fall apart.
I do not believe there is a set model to follow as couples and partners have a variety of needs and quite often there needs to be compromise to reach a happy medium. For example, my wife does not really approve of corporal punishment for misdemeanours and she genuinely appears to love the level of service and the quality of housework when I am working as her maid. A part of my submissiveness rather enjoys having my bottom warmed up which in a sense would be receiving a reward for misdemeanours or sloppy work. Quite often my wife announces that there will be no bottom warming at the end of my period of service and dismisses me with just a wave of the hand and she has stated she will never use a cane as it brings a totally different feel to the situation and she is not the kind of person to indulge in that behaviour. Instead, physical ďpunishmentĒ is sometimes offered as a reward and a reminder along the lines of ďyou have served me well today maid and deserve a reward, but I need to remind you of certain aspects that need some improvement and I will leave some warm marks on your bottom to serve as a reminder for next timeĒ.
Ultimately, we do whatever works best and it is always advisable to talk it thorough and ensure both partners are comfortable and happy with the situation and that way, we avoid any unwanted surprises. Now Iím off to make and serve breakfast for my wife as ordered - but in male mode which is also requested today.
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2024, 02:44:53 am »
There is a tendency for femdom to be thought of as very one sided but I contend that once again that is only in the world of fantasy and it goes up in smoke whenever there is any kind of sexual release used as part of the process.

I totally agree that for most males femdom is only a fantasy in the bedroom and that they switch instantly back into patriarchy mode once they have reached release. But it is a fantasy that can be capitalized on. Women can use this fantasy to make males listen and to slowly but steadily persuade them of all the amazing benefits a real FLR can have for both partners.

Males are like little children. Any lesson must be repeated over and over again and their behavior must be met with positive and negative rewards so that they learn. It takes time and effort but in the end both children and males learn.
 
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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2024, 03:24:22 am »
Great thoughts here. I am one of the millions who would love to submit as a sissified male to a dominant but loving wife. I agree with Petula this is not who most women see themselves though. Certainly not my wife of 50 years. Iíve tried. Iíve come out. Iíve sissified myself to her chagrin. Iíve done all the chores both dressed as a maid and in male mode. I asked her numerous times to take charge as the head of household and given her financial control. Control of my orgasms, I give her oral satisfaction on call. I want to be the one who obeys and makes her life wonderful. The trouble is, she does not want that sort of Ďmaní. So Iíve pretty much gone back to male mode now and donít pester her about feminization desires anymore.
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